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Hide and Seek - Official rules (a.k.a. Yung ruleset)

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Transplant

Junior Member

11-14-2013

Let me start this thread off by saying I did not make up these rules or have any rights. I am just trying to make this game mode more playable since I really really enjoy playing Hide and Seek.
For people that do play HnS, I advise you to make a Blacklist. It actually helps quite a lot against trolls. Please feel free to post in this thread with suggestions or things that I might have missed.

These rules are compiled from ALL OF THE EXISTING rule-sets, and made into a very balanced, playable game mode.

The basics:
- The object off the game is Hide and Seek; we all know this game from our younger years.
You have 2 teams: Hiders & Seekers. Hereby the hiders try to survive for as long as possible.

- The standard game length = 40 min (Without penalties applied and etc.)

- This game is to be played on the Crystal Scar map - Draft Pick.

- You win as Seeker if you eliminate all lives the Hider team has.

- You win as Hider by having at least 1 life left when the game ends.

The champions that are Pre-banned (meaning these are already banned and are not allowed to be played in any game) are:

Hiders: Kassadin, Teemo, Evelynn & Shaco.

Seekers: Kassadin, Teemo, Master Yi & Rengar.

The basics are very easy to understand, here comes the hard part.
(we have 2 teams; since these teams both have separate rules, I'll list them)


Hiders:
- NOTE that I will write on the bottom of this page what the specific penalties are for every rule that has been broken.

- Any hider may only use an ability if it contains any form of direct CC (Slow, Stun, Root, Grab, Kick, Fear, Taunt, Etc.), Mobility, Healing & Shielding.

- Some abilities have to be tweaked to be able to be fair. At the bottom of the post, there is a separate list with champions and abilities they can and can not use.
(Small example: Le Blanc can use all abilities except Q (Sigil of Silence). Since this skill is not a direct form of CC it is not allowed. However her E (Ethereal Chains) is permitted since it slows and roots the player. Her W is a form of mobility so this is also legit.)

- Golden rule is 1 helper per 1 Hider. This means that if a Hider is being chased by 1 Seeker, only 1 other Hider is allowed to help him. If a Hider is being chased by 2 Seekers, 2 other Hiders are allowed to help him. This will always be a maximum of 2 so more then 2 helpers is never allowed.

- Hiders have 5 lives. (*/5/*) means out.

- Once out of the game (died for 5 times), Hiders are not allowed to interfere with the game in any possible way. They may ONLY stay afk in the base or leave the game entirely (the reason for this is that Seekers can be distracted if they spot an enemy champion on the minimap). Make sure the Seekers always know when the Hiders are out.

[People who are dead and still aid their team are called Ghosters and will not be taken lightly. They will be added to our Blacklist as permanent. There is no fun in GHOSTING guys!]
There will always be a blacklist kept which will be checked before starting any game so don’t screw up guys! Everybody makes mistakes but we all know when we're cheating.

- The maximum amount of hiders in 1 BUSH is 2 hiders.
The maximum amount of hiders hidden in 1 AREA is 3 hiders (meaning a part of the map as big as the half circles behind the turrets).

- Hiders May NOT Auto-attack the seekers ( 1 Auto-attack is okay for the purpose of applying CC effects -such as Darius "W"- but not harassing seekers with Auto-attacks)

- Once a Hider dies, he will get a GRACE period of 30 seconds as soon as he/she leaves base. Hiders must type in /all chat "GRACE" so that Seekers can time their grace period.
This means that the seekers have to ignore the hiders until the grace time has faded away.
Just see these grace players as ghosts until the time has ended. (this rule is only here so Seekers can’t spawncamp the Hiders).

- The Hiders are NOT allowed to spend more than 10 seconds in the base (Paved area) after Spawning. Violation of this rule will make the player responsible LOOSE 1 LIFE. Hiders MUST call "GRACE" on /all chat within 10 seconds of respawning. (If GRACE has been called, the Hider can spend all of the 30 seconds in the base, but once the 30 seconds are over, he can immediately be killed)

- All hiders have to be out of the base by 2:10.

- Hiders CAN ONLY BUY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN KILLED. This means they will only have 4 buys per game. This also means YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RECALL AT ANY GIVEN TIME AS HIDER.

- Any item (like Rylai's Scepter) DOES NOT legitimate any spells so you can’t buy rylai's to make Singed's poison slow or anything like that. SKILLS > ITEMS.

- Hiders can hide everywhere EXCEPT in any of the PAVED SPAWN AREAS.

- HIDERS MAY ONLY BUILD 1 Defensive item. A defensive item is considered anything that gives any of the following:
20+ Armor
20+ Magic resist
300+ HP (note: anything that has less than 300 hp is not considered to be a defensive item)
(Example: Aegis of the Legion is considered to be a defensive item and only one such item is allowed per champion)
Side note: Any items that provide Movement Speed DO NOT count as Defensive Items.

- HIDERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TOO BUILD ANY OFFENSIVE ITEMS. Unless they do not mainly provide offense. So Zephyr is allowed since it's main purpose is Movement Speed. But no Offensive items that either upgrade Auto attack damage or your Spells.

- HIDERS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TOO BUILD SLOW ITEMS UNTIL the 15th minute.

- Thornmail, Guardian Angel & Sunfire Cape are BANNED.

- Hiders are not allowed to buy Hextech Sweepers because of the Revealing effect.


Seekers:

- NOTE that I will write on the bottom of this page what the specific penalties are for every rule that has been broken.

- Seekers are only allowed to have 1 SLOW ITEM per champion (2 per team) before 25 Minutes. After 25 Minutes the seekers are allowed to buy a 2nd slow item. 2 slow items is the maximum (4 per team).
Note: Not only Frozen Mallet and Rylai's are slow items. Anything with a slowing effect is a slow item. So also Blade of the ruined King, Ice born Gauntlet & Twin Shadows.

- SEEKERS MUST RESPECT GRACE RULE!

- Items that give vision are not allowed until after the 15th minute.
Oracle, Lightbringer & Hextech Sweeper for example.

- ONCE A SEEKER falls below 300 HP, he is allowed to recall without being interrupted. HOWEVER, if a Seeker STOPS HIS RECALL then the hiders are allowed too kill him by any means necessary. So be smart about recalling! The first recall is free, after that you can suddenly become the hunted.

- Seekers may not LEAVE THE BASE before Minute 2:00. This way the Hiders have some time to hide.

- Seekers are only allowed to have ONE Clairvoyance summoner spell in the team.

- NO spawn camping. (Grace period of 30 secs each Hider has)

- The objective is to find and destroy all hiders within time limit.

Penalties:

Hiders:

If a Ghoster provides help to one of his fellow hiders, the Seeker team will get +3 minutes for every time a Ghoster provides help for his teammates.

If a Hider kills a Seeker without giving the Seeker a fair chance to recall first, the Hider who has killed the Seeker WILL LOSE 1 Life.

If more than 3 Hiders camp in the same spot or more then 2 in the Same bush, ALL OF THE HIDERS CAMPING IN THAT SPOT WILL LOSE 1 LIFE! unless the Hider team announces on /all chat the player who joined the area LAST, in which case only he will lose 1 LIFE.
Note: Camping is when a player stands in the same BUSH for more than 10 sec. OR in the same AREA for more than 20 sec.
(Most of the time, this rule goes ignored and the hider team does not announce the player who joined last. Therefore, if by any means the Seeker team discovers the culprits, all of the players involved will lose 1 life for not announcing the player who was not allowed to camp in the area.)

If 1 Hider is a really sad person (yes you have some of these people) and decides to capture bases and constantly harrass the Seekers, just Surrender the game and Blacklist this Hider. Sometimes people do not know how to communicate, so just make sure you never have to play with this person again. Be aware that you have to communicate with the enemy team before making fast and stupid decisions. Once both sides agree you can undertake action. The host of the game has the last say if people can’t get to a solution.

For Seekers, any rule broken by your team means that Hiders can break 1 rule, as long as the rule Hiders are breaking COUNTERS the rule the Seekers are breaking.

For example:

If they spawn-camp you (during your grace period), just wait in base until they leave.

If they buy slow items before min 25, you can buy slow items before min 15.

If they leave base before 2:00 they lose 2 minutes.

For any Prebanned champion the Seeker team picks, the Hider team gets 2 Prebanned champions (up to 4 prebanned champions). This may provide an alternative to a player leaving the game. However, if the Hider team picks prebanned champions, the game must be interrupted before it starts (unless EVERY player agrees with the champions)

This is only to make the game more fair if the Seekers decide to cheat, which of course is not applicable in most games.

Champion specific rules for Hiders: (full list)
(Before the game begins, find the champions you are considering to pick here and see what you are allowed to do with them. You may also check on other champions that other players have chosen while the game loads)

-Aatrox
"R" NOT allowed.

-Ahri
"Q" and "W" are NOT allowed.

-Akali
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Alistar
Every ability is allowed since his ultimate has a function as cleanse does.

-Amumu
"W" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Anivia
"E" is NOT allowed.

-Annie
"Q" and "W" are NOT allowed (Unless used to stun). "R" is NOT allowed by any means.

-Ashe
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Blitzcrank
"R" is not allowed, to secure not killing a seeker or damaging too much. A fair Blitzcrank player doesn't skill his ULTIMATE.

-Brand
NO SKILLS ALLOWED because he can only stun while using combinations which is not allowed.

-Caytlin
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed, since her traps disappear if you try to put a fourth in, it's balanced.

-Cassiopeia
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Cho'Gath
"W", "E" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Corki
"Q", "E" and R" are NOT allowed

-Darius
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed, but if his "W" is used he may only auto-attack his target ONCE to use the slow.

-Diana
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Dr. Mundo
"E" is NOT allowed.

-Draven
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Elise
"Q" and "W" are not allowed in any form.

-Evelynn
BANNED

-Ezreal
"Q", "W" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Fiddlesticks
"E" and "R" are NOT allowed. (although silence is an usable spell, there are circumstances when the 2 Seekers are close together, in which case the damage received would be high.)

-Fiora
"E" is NOT allowed. If she uses "R" and kills a Seeker with it, she looses a life herself.

-Fizz
"W" is NOT allowed.

-Galio
all abilities allowed.

-Gangplank
"Q" is NOT allowed. If he uses "R" and kills a Seeker with it, he looses a life himself. He is not allowed to auto-attack to slow!

-Garen
"E" and "R" are not allowed.

-Gragas
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Graves
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Hecarim
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Heimerdinger
"Q", "W" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Irelia
"W" is NOT allowed.

-Janna
Every ability is allowed.

-Jarvan IV
Every ability is allowed. "Q" is ONLY USABLE for mobility purposes. You are allowed to damage players with "Q" only if the ability is used to move to a Standard ("E&quot and Seekers are in the way.

-Jax
"W" is NOT allowed.

-Jayce
"Q" (Cannon Stance) and "W" (Both Stances) are not allowed.

-Jinx
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Karma
Every ability is allowed.

-Karthus
"Q", "E" and "R" NOT allowed.

-Kassadin
BANNED

-Katarina
"Q", "W" and "R" NOT allowed.

-Kayle
"E" NOT allowed.

-Kennen
"Q" and "W" NOT allowed.

-Kha'Zix
"Q" NOT allowed, "W" only allowed if evolved with his Ultimate!

-Kog'Maw
"Q", "W" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-LeBlanc
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Lee Sin
Every ability is allowed.

-Leona
Every ability is allowed.

-Lissandra
Every ability is allowed.

-Lucian
"Q", "W" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Lulu
Every ability is allowed.

-Lux
"R" is NOT allowed.

-Malphite
"E" is NOT allowed.

-Malzahar
"Q", "W" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Maokai
"E" is NOT allowed.

-Master Yi
"E" is NOT allowed.

-Miss Fortune
"Q", "W" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Mordekaiser
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Morgana
"W" is NOT allowed.

-Nami
Every ability is allowed.

-Nasus
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Nautilus
Every ability is allowed.

-Nidalee
"Q" (both forms), "W" (human form) and "E" (cat form) are NOT allowed. She is NOT allowed to put traps down at any point!

-Nocturne
Every ability is allowed.

-Nunu
Every ability is allowed.

-Olaf
"W" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Orianna
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Pantheon
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Poppy
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Quinn
"Q" and "W" are NOT allowed. She is also not allowed to auto-attack to increase movement speed.

-Rammus
"R" is NOT allowed.

-Renekton
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Rengar
"Q" is NOT allowed. "W" is ONLY allowed to heal.

-Riven
"R" is NOT allowed.

-Rumble
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Ryze
"Q", "W" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Sejuani
"W" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Shaco
BANNED

-Shen
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Shyvanna
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Singed
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Sion
"E" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Sivir
"Q" and "W" are NOT allowed.

-Skarner
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Sona
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Soraka
"Q" is NOT allowed. "E" is NOT allowed to silence. (You can use "E" on an ally to restore mana)

-Swain
"E" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Syndra
"R" is NOT allowed. "Q" is not allowed to damage a player. It can only be used on the ground and for "W" and "E".

-Talon
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Taric
"R" is NOT allowed. "W" is only allowed for protection, never to damage a player.

-Teemo
BANNED

-Thresh
Every ability is allowed.

-Tristana
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Trundle
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Tryndamere
"Q" is not allowed. (Only because there is no means of gathering rage to use it)

-Twisted Fate
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Twitch
"E" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Udyr
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Urgot
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed. (you may NOT auto-attack to gain movement speed while "W" is active)

-Varus
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Vayne
"W" is NOT allowed.

-Veigar
"Q", "W" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-VI
"W" and "E" are NOT allowed. ("R" is usable as a Hit-and-Run)

-Viktor
"Q", "E" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Vladimir
"Q", "E" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Volibear
"W" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Warwick
"Q" and "W" are NOT allowed. ("E" is allowed for the movement speed bonus)

-Wukong
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Xerath
"Q", "E" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Xin Zhao
"Q" and "W" are NOT allowed.

-Yorick
"Q" and "E" are NOT allowed.

-Zac
"W" is NOT allowed.

-Zed
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Ziggs
"Q" and "R" are NOT allowed.

-Zilean
"Q" is NOT allowed.

-Zyra
"Q" and "W" are NOT allowed.


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Transplant

Junior Member

11-14-2013

I shall be eagerly waiting your suggestions and improvements on this game mode. Any question on-topic is also very welcome and I shall do my best to answer them.


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Borsec666

Junior Member

11-17-2013

Awesome! I like the fact that you actually care about this and took the time to be so explicit about the rules. Thumbs up!


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osamasilentt

Junior Member

02-22-2014

Troller allways destroy our game :S
trollers :S


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Japan69

Junior Member

03-17-2014

guys, not bad;/...


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feelofdeath

Junior Member

03-21-2014

blacklist the names if u can to the west blacklist cause i dont have acc plz
3xx3000
majo136
matilam
PaatrykN
DynamoBG
captain222
ZlisseR


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LolSumor

Junior Member

05-01-2014

There some trolls:
Evilo15
Tank5521
protomati


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Ezio0o

Junior Member

06-23-2014

CooL


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PureGamer

Junior Member

07-01-2014

we need to have some kind of "blacklist" to predict from trollers. this game h&s is pretty fun but with all those trollers it's so annoying. this "black list" shoul be on bottom of this post because reading all comments have no sense. and one other suggestion is to send other players the link of this thread so they can know the rules and all this stuff we need to make it popular.


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FiReSpAwNie

Senior Member

07-04-2014

40minutes game seems a lot to me.I would lower the lives to 3 and the time to 25minutes.


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