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How should RIot change Vayne

Make her % damage Physical 19 10%
Nerf the amount of True Damage 15 7,89%
Make her CDs higher 11 5,79%
Nerf her a bit but buff her on her weak sides 15 7,89%
She is fine as she is 130 68,42%
Voters 190 .

Vayne's nerf

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DoubleSummon

Recruiter

06-27-2013

In the last thread most of the people here agreed she needs a nerf.. so which one do you think she needs?

1. Make the true damage Physical so armor can counter her
2. lower the % of true damage
3. Make her CD higher On E,Q or even ult
4.A nerf and a buff to early game
5. none of above


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Hrki

Senior Member

06-27-2013

Was that supposed to be a pool?


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DoubleSummon

Recruiter

06-27-2013

Yeah made a poll


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Cartheginian15

Senior Member

06-27-2013

Vayne is fine adcs in general are the problem and Botrk.Hence why in s2 she wasnt a dominant pick but now we see her most of the time(with ez)


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Dravening

Senior Member

06-27-2013

A very difficult ADC to master.Vayne should be no problem early game,but late game she is just a beast.
She is balanced,yet heavly relies on skills and position.
Besides, have you played with her?


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Panic

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06-27-2013

Why is vayne in need of a nerf? Yes she's probably one of the best 1v1 BUT she has 0 aoe, her Attack range is very ordinary, she needs a high skill cap in order to be played well, her early game is extremely poor and she has to be fed 1 or 2 kills in order to cope with a lot of champs or just her team to allow her to farm up as much as possible.

Yes, I agree that she can mop up 3v1 quite easily, she has an extremely strong stun, her silver bolts are insane when you stack up AS BUT I still and will always believe that she's a very balanced and strong ADC. (Yes she is one of my top favorites :P


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DoubleSummon

Recruiter

06-27-2013

Quote:
Panic:
Why is vayne in need of a nerf? Yes she's probably one of the best 1v1 BUT she has 0 aoe, her Attack range is very ordinary, she needs a high skill cap in order to be played well, her early game is extremely poor and she has to be fed 1 or 2 kills in order to cope with a lot of champs or just her team to allow her to farm up as much as possible.

Yes, I agree that she can mop up 3v1 quite easily, she has an extremely strong stun, her silver bolts are insane when you stack up AS BUT I still and will always believe that she's a very balanced and strong ADC. (Yes she is one of my top favorites :P


I believe she have a too strong late game even when not fed she can make a huge impact to her team even if shut down early barely farmed we had a disscussion and I think trhat most people agreed she is quite strong..
early she can manage to survive thanks to her support and her 2 great survival tools.
I do agree she is a high skill cap champion but %8 true damage in 3 hits is way too much.

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Dravening:
A very difficult ADC to master.Vayne should be no problem early game,but late game she is just a beast.
She is balanced,yet heavly relies on skills and position.
Besides, have you played with her?

I don't play adcs (I currently main jungle) so I didn't played her I supported some vaynes though they are really strong after some time.. if they manage to survive and have some skills they can carry easily her damage is insane and you can't build anything to counter it..


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VAsilVA

Member

06-27-2013

Took me long enough to find it. But here it is: http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23492-myths-about-resistances-and-health
Read the "Vayne's damage is uncounterable!" paragraph.


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DoubleSummon

Recruiter

06-27-2013

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VAsilVA:
Took me long enough to find it. But here it is: http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23492-myths-about-resistances-and-health
Read the "Vayne's damage is uncounterable!" paragraph.

It doesn't take into account BOTRK which adds even more % damage which means she will melt tanks.. and the guy only calculated with the chance only one hit crits you.. and he didn't compared that damage to other champions..

ANyway as I see most people agree she shouldn't be nerfed well then I will just keep to play against her the same way as now.. finish early or kill her before she kills everyone.


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Dyzier

Senior Member

06-27-2013

I completely agree with Panic. Still, some people keep saying that even if she is not fed earpy she becomes a monster late. That is completely true aswell, but in late game, everyone becomes equal. Everyone farms, gets full build and all that matters are teamfights. All adc's scale very well late game, Vayne is no exception. She is balanced and is not in need of a nerf, just like Panic said.