Draven vs Vayne

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Cait shot JFK

Senior Member

09-06-2012

Played Vayne today and wanted to do a comparison to Draven, mainly the Q skills, that effect the next basic attack, tumble vs spinning blades

v1.0.0.120 - 2011-06-22

Tumble bonus damage reduced to 40/45/50/55/60% from 55/60/65/70/75%

Tumble has been reduced from 55% to now 30% going up 60% to whilst Draven starts at 45% going up to 80% and its a difference u notice..

Now i know people are saying vayne has been nerfed hard, and in come areas she has, but maybe this is an area where she can be buffed, because it seems with all the new released champs, with similar abilities to older champs, makes the older ones irrelevant. and it seems that release draven is like release Vayne way back when.


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Microwawe

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Senior Member

09-06-2012

Vayne's Q resets your auto-attack timer (easy to get 3 silver bolts on the target with AA-Q-AA) and it has a small dash in it too...no need to change anything.


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whitebeard23

Senior Member

09-06-2012

The patch has ruined vayne's early game but in her late game she is still the best carry for me


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GjeNgiX

Junior Member

09-06-2012

The main problem with vayne is her move speed nerf and passive nerf imo.


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whitebeard23

Senior Member

09-06-2012

-_-?op movement speed when she has ulti lol you want more than that ?


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georulez

Senior Member

09-06-2012

she needs range or her movespeed back to have a better lane. her lategame dmg is more than ok


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laukka

Member

09-06-2012

AP I guess you have noticed Corki's and Talon's passives.
Corki's passive deals 10% bonus TRUE damage every time he hits and Talon deals 10% bonus PHYSICAL damage when target is CC'd. Well it isn't hard to say which is better. The reason is that Talon can burst enemies nicely so he don't deserve so good passive.
Draven has better Q damage than Vayne but Vayne overall damage is at the same level. Note that her Q provides small leap forward and makes her invis with ult.


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Taeradun

Senior Member

09-06-2012

Also, Vayne's Tumble cooldown is 6/5/4/3/2 while Draven's Spinning Axe cooldown is 12/11/10/9/8; in order to throw spinning axes as fast as Vayne can use Tumble Draven needs to run and catch those axes, which in many situations isn't optimal or is impossible to do.


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herrDoom

Senior Member

09-06-2012

Lategame, Vayne is still a monster and potentially the best AD ranged carry in the game.

Draven hasn't done much to impress except be something for show.